Marie Koukalová

* 1940

  • "The next day they came and said, 'Load your things.' They didn't say where we were going, we didn't know where we were going at first. They put our things on a flatbed truck or something like that. We had a big Bernardine then and it was also on the flatbed. We also had a small dog, which ran from Straky through the whole Lysá behind the tractor to Ostrá, in Obor. It was our second dog. That's how our family moved there. When I went to school for the first time, I realized that we have dogs, but that we don't have a cat; that I didn't find it there (at the time of moving). So, I got up and went from Čachovice to Straky to our aunt´s, Mrs. Řípová, and I said: 'Lend me something, I'm going for a cat.' She lent me a net bag and I went to our farm, where there were people and their task there was milking, it was evening, they watched how I got there, such a girl, because I was not allowed to enter there. We were not allowed to enter. I saw that the cat was there, I grabbed it, put it in the net bag and ran back to my aunt. She probably gave me something else for the cat and I took the four-hour bus back home."

  • "It was a period of time - I married a political prisoner and we were still looking for his job. He had the education, everything. The worst thing about Nymburk was that when my husband died, my daughter and I were persecuted. If my husband was alive, they wouldn't do it. He would manage it, even though he was a political prisoner. The girl was excellent in school, suddenly it was over and it hit me and my daughter. She went through difficult situations; she could not go to school or anywhere else. But only when we were left alone. I went to beg. 'No. No way. No way. No way.' That was hard - the StB and everything. You don't know what else to do... You take the child: 'Come with me. You're not going to school.' - 'How come I am not going to school?' - 'You have to go to the StB with me.' - 'And what are we going to do there?' - 'I have to explain something there.' 'Ma'am, why are you coming here with a child – at 8 o'clock in the morning?' - 'And what am I supposed to do with her? I'll send her to school and what about you here with me?' - ' Sit here then' - 'No, Nellynka will be with me and you tell me what you want from me. You know me. You know where I work.' I took the girl with me to the StB. I was worried about her, you know. You don't know what could happen. You leave and then the child disappears. You have to hold her hand all the time! The worst time was when Vlasta wasn't. They were torturing us."

  • "When [Vlastimil and his fellow prisoners] were put on the express train from Moravia to Kolín and Nymburk, they got money for which they could buy something on the train. They went to the dining car with Mirek Šťastný. And now - fork, knife, spoon. Cutlery. And now they were watching. You have to understand, when you did not have anything like that for ten and a half years ... The boys were funny. And now [Vlastimil] didn't know where he lived. [Before] he lived in a sugar factory, [now] he wrote to his parents to Krátká street, but he did not know where it is. Miloš Duchaňů, he was also one of those who [were convicted in the trial], arrived two or three days earlier, he went to the trains and waited for Vlasta to come, so he would take him home. They lived close to the station, where they had a family house. Finally, he found Vlasta, Vlasta came. Miloš immediately took him home to his parents, everyone greeted him. Then he said: "Now I will go with you to your parents. They do not know. We will go together to Jankovice." All right, they came to Jankovice, to the second part [Nymburk]. The parents were at home and they welcomed Vlasta. After ten and a half years."

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We couldn’t go away and leave our parents here, so we had to withstand a lot of hardships, but together, with the help of our family, we managed it.

A period photograph of the witness, Nymburk, 1962
A period photograph of the witness, Nymburk, 1962
photo: archive of the witness

Marie Koukalová was born to farmers František and Maria Peckovi on October 13, 1940. She grew up together with her older brother František and many employees of the farm no. 10 in Straky near Nymburk. As a part of the collectivization, family ties were severed and their farm was nationalized. Her parents and Marie were placed with other kulaks on a farm in Obor near Ostrá, and František, who was banned from working in Nymburk district, worked with cows near Kladruby. The situation weakened her father’s health. In 1956, the family moved to Nymburk and Marie studied at a secondary business school in Vinohrady. She wanted to get “umístěnka” (a document containing data about a student that was meant to be placed in a certain company) in Nymburk, which she did, and she joined the Jednota coop. In 1961, she married the newly released political prisoner Vlastimil Krejčí, he was convicted in 1950 in a fabricated political trial in Nymburk. They lived in the same house as their husband’s parents, and in 1961 their daughter Nelly was born. In the relaxed atmosphere of the Prague Spring, the husband began working on his rehabilitation, which he achieved in 1969 and a year later he was financially compensated. After her husband’s death, Marie was persecuted and found help from her family. Subsequently, she lived with her daughter in Prague. During the restitution of Stracký estate, she acknowledged the right of her brother’s landlord and left all the property to him. She now cooperates with the Museum of National History in Nymburk and organizes a family archive.